I've been wanting, needing, slouchy boots for a long time. One thing I really wanted, is for them to be flat boots. I have too many heels and my feet are slowly revolting against me. Heather and I went over to Payless at the mall today and tried these on this afternoon. We both tried on the black and brown (they didn't have grey in the store). We both loved the black, but the store didn't have two pairs. We went online when we got home and each order a pair, AND they happened to be on sale online! I can't wait to get them!